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This song is called "The Trickest Magician," and was written by British

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folk rock band Steeleye Span. Another witchy woman with

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no intention of paying guests at a warlocks' do who want to

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have her. She turns her lover into a duck to get away, but he

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transforms into a wolf-

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I still have people calling me Ty Lord

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...

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instead.

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I think-

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You know

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You don't pay attention to-

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since I was a kid.

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Yeah.

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The army was working.

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A lot of interesting nerds.

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Yeah, Amanda. Yeah. We'll get through. Probably happened since then.

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Oh, yeah, I was. It definitely was.

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Okay. So- We're making right at-

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Yeah, quorum?

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What's that?

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Quorum.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Yeah. Okay.

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I think we have almost talked about this, right?

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No. Yeah, we certainly don't. Okay.

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Welcome, everyone, to Wednesday, August 26th,

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2026,

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City of Spokane Plan Commission Workshop.

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We have a new clerk, Amanda, is that correct?

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That is correct.

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All right. Wonderful. Well, will you please take roll?

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Okay.

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President Bank?

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Here.

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Vice President Patterson? Here. Commissioner Lenhart?

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She's absent.

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Commissioner Madsen.

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Here.

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Commissioner Rasmussen.

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Rasmussen. Yes, here.

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Thank you.

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It's different when you read it than when-

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Commissioner Toboche.

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Here.

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Commissioner Williams.

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And Commissioner Yats.

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Here.

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There she is.

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Okay, very good. Thank you. So we have a quorum.

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So before we get into our agenda, we will open up the floor to members of the

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public who'd like to provide comments to items that are

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not on today's agenda.

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Do we have any members of the public, either in the room or online, that would like

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to speak to any of these items?

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Hearing no one, going once, twice, three times.

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Okay, we will go ahead and close the public comment and

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move on to approval of the July 22nd meeting

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minutes. Can I hear a motion, please?

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Motion.

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Second.

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Okay, motion and a second. Let the record reflect Commissioner Williams is here

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also.

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We have a motion and a second. All those in favor, please say aye.

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Aye.

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Those opposed, nay.

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Okay, we have approved minutes. And

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Council Member Klitzke is not with us that we can see.

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Okay, so we will move past city council liaison report

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and move on to community assembly liaison report with Linda Carroll, please.

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Yes, and I'll add my name to the roll call because ordinarily the

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liaisons are also included. Okay.

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The chair of Community Assembly's Administration Committee distributed

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the comments to the May draft of the comprehensive plan that Community

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Assembly adopted, distributed to the mayor, city council, planning

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department, and the plan commission.

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In his response of July 23rd, as you probably already know, Plan Commission

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President Banks noted that the Plan Commission, quote, "Will look forward

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to additional discussion with Linda at the next Plan Commission discussion of the

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matter, and will certainly take these comments into consideration, as we do

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with all other stakeholder input received to date as we formulate our official

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recommendations to council later this year." Unquote.

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The Community Assembly meeting scheduled to take place on August the 6th, which

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initially was projected to go forward, was canceled by the Administration

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Committee on August 4 to allow those affected by the fires to attend to urgent

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needs. In the email announcing the cancellation, Heather Hamlin

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added that, quote, "We received word that the city's planning department

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expects a slowdown on the comp plan and deadlines to let the community

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focus on the important issues right now.

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Planning can return to the work when the community is ready." Unquote.

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That's the end of my report.

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And that's it?

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Yep.

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Sorry, I missed the last part.

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That's it.

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Thank you.

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Okay, onto president report.

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There's been a lot

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since we last met.

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Fires and data centers, oh my.

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So I just want to take a moment to provide a little bit of

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commentary

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on some of these issues, and I know we'll obviously unpack a lot

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more of them as we move forward.

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With respect to the fires, and this is a little bit of me going on a

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soapbox for a moment, but I'm gonna take my prerogative to do that from the

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seat.

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We had discussed action on

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WUI codes for some time.

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I connected Council Member Klitzke

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and

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Sarah Nuss with some members of the staff and planning

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department in Jefferson County, Colorado, where I sat on the planning commission

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for some time.

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They are very experienced, unfortunately, with wildfires.

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They have the second most dangerous WUI by population in the country.

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We covered a lot of WUI issues while I was on that body, and the purpose in my

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connecting them to city council and emergency management staff

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was to get in front of some of these conversations.

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That occurred in July of 2024.

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I recognize that we have some

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conversation around WUI in this comprehensive plan,

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but I think we've all seen what has just happened, and I don't think any of us

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really genuinely feels like it's not going to happen again.

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It is unquestionably going to happen again.

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The question is where and how severe.

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So I want to

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call for action from this position to say we

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need to take this seriously. We need to strengthen

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our WUI code where possible. We need to have a

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very serious and clear-eyed conversation around what is

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built and where, what the response

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in some of those locations will look like.

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I know the feedback will come that, well, we need

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to allow the market to decide where we're going to build, and demand is

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saying that we need to accommodate folks that want to live in those

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locations, and that's fine,

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but those folks need to accept the increased risk that comes with

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those locations, and I don't feel like that is currently

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adequately addressed

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or addressed strongly enough in the comprehensive plan.

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And so I want to encourage action around that.

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I don't think we can push this issue forward,

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kick the can anymore.

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I'll leave it there on that. I've got

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stronger feelings, but I'll leave them aside.

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Data centers.

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Getting a one-two punch here with land use-related

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items.

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So we've all seen city council action, we've seen subsequent county

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commissioner's action.

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It was mentioned in the city council action that this will be

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brought to Plan Commission. I suspect that's coming, those conversations are

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coming.

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I've not heard anything about them yet.

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Obviously, this is a more minimal issue in the city than it

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is in the county. We don't really have the land to

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support

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that kind of a use, at least at the scales that they're discussing within city

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limits. However, it's still a really, really important discussion.

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I also want to acknowledge, once again, the flood

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of community comment that we've received on the issue.

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We hear you, community.

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We understand that this is a really, really important

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subject.

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We look forward to discussing it in this room with

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this group, and making some recommendations to council on how they can

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potentially move forward with this.

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But this is an issue that is not going to go away.

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We're not putting the genie back in the bottle on this, and we need to

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have a clear-eyed conversation about how we move forward.

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So I, again, have other stronger feelings there, but I'll leave that

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aside.

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Finally, we've received some public comment on slowing

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down the comprehensive plan process due to the

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wildfires.

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I completely support and understand the fact that planning

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staff is stretched thin, as thin as can be.

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All of city staff is stretched as thin as can be, and it makes complete

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sense to reevaluate the

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timeline

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in response to those issues.

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Some of those comments, however, have come in seeming

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to indicate that the wildfires and the

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impact of the wildfires have caused folks in

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other neighborhoods that are nowhere near the fires to not have

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enough time to comment on the comprehensive plan.

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This staff has done an unbelievable job in

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reaching out for public comment, and I want to commend them again, as I always

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do. This public comment for this project has been going

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on for the thick end of two years.

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They have talked to thousands of people. They have tabled at events.

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They have held workshops. We have held workshops into this space.

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We have held hearings on the matter.

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If you don't feel as though your comments are being

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heard, and I want to draw a distinction between comments being heard and

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comments being accepted and written into the plan verbatim, those are two different

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things.

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But if you don't feel that your comments are being heard, there is plenty of

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time to get your comments in. We are still working

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on this. Adoption is not for another couple of months

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yet, and we need to keep moving. But please don't

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use a tragedy that's devastated the lives of

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thousands of our community members

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as an excuse to delay the process because you've

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not been engaged to date. It is offensive.

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I was really offended. I've sat on these types of bodies for the best part of a

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decade now, and I've seen impassioned public comment.

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Lots and lots and lots of impassioned public comment, and engaged

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people are wonderful. That's the best thing that we have as a city, is

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an engaged populace.

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But be engaged if you care. Be engaged

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and come and make your comments heard.

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And I'll leave it there because I got strong feelings on that one, too.

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So sorry to sort of speak from the pulpit here today, but obviously

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we've had a lot of stuff going on.

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So I'll leave it there and move on to secretary report

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with Director Gardner, please.

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Yeah. So, you mentioned data centers.

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The reason that we don't have anything happening right now on that is because our

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attention is focused on other things.

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Sure.

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And I would anticipate once we are through with comp plan

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adoption, data centers is gonna be one of the things we pick up immediately.

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So,

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there is work going on within the broader city.

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But as far as Plan Commission's involvement in that, it's sort of taking a

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backseat to the comp plan.

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Sure.

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Which I think is

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one of the considerations when we talk about timeline.

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And I did wanna just address the timeline.

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We do have an item on the agenda to get into that a little bit, so I won't comment

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other than to say we're gonna talk about that in a minute.

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So,

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we also have an item here on the agenda related to

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some regulatory changes

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as a response to the fires, and there may actually

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be

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a couple of other

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related topics.

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An example is

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waiving or modifying certain design standards for those who wish to

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build back with kind of a like for like rebuild.

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Because our regulations have changed since homes were built in that area,

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and I don't think there's any interest, at least on the staff's part,

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to be a barrier to somebody rebuilding essentially what was there.

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And so, we're still discussing that and trying to figure out the right process to

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bring all of that forward. Obviously, we want public input

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on everything that we do. But we already have permits in the

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system right now to start rebuilding.

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And so, we also need to be expeditious with providing people some certainty as

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they're looking to do that. So, we will try to balance that and involve Plan

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Commission where we can, but we may also, council may take emergency

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action to just help people move along.

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So I just wanna make sure you're aware of that.

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And then we

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are expecting a new Plan Commission member to be

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nominated in September

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So look for that. I don't remember the date of the council meeting.

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I think it's September 8th.

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So we hope that

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by mid-September, we should have one more person here able

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to sit here with us and engage on all

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these topics.

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And I guess that's it. When we get to the items related to the

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timeline, we can come back to some of that.

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Great. Thank you.

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Okay, moving on, Transportation Commission liaison.

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At the last Transportation Commission meeting,

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there was conversation about the Spokane Falls

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rebuild.

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The survey ended. It was extended to a total of six weeks for

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public feedback on the

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most recent kind of concepts, which included a lane

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reduction and then an option for a two-way or

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just in the eastern section or a

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one-way.

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And the survey responses were generally

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more than 50% not in favor of the two-way

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option. There was concern over confusion or just that it

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was a small segment.

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There was a lot of discussion by commission members about

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the

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benefits or not of going ahead with small segments or pushing the can down the

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road.

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There was general support,

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both

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highly approved and whatever the next standard down for

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the concepts as presented, which includes the lane reduction.

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There was an extra presentation on

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information about lane reallocation impact elsewhere in Spokane,

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specifically on Monroe and Sprague, where there were

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previously called road diets, now called lane reallocation

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and using the value of the permits prior

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to and post the lane reallocation to

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generally show that it did not have a negative impact on

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investment in the area. There are always different ways to measure

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impact, but that's data the city has.

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On Monroe, the three years before permits

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worth about valued at $3 million, the three years after they were valued around

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$10.7 million. Sprague was even

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more extreme. Prior, 15 million during,

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I think that's a 13, but then after, 70.

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I did hear someone right behind me kind of grumbling like, "Well,

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that's only because interest rates were so low," but it's still money that was

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invested into our city. So

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there has not been proof that reducing the number of traffic lanes

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impacts the investment in the street.

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There was some public comment both by the owner of the Bennett Block,

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another business owner there, and from River Park Square,

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that were against the

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lane reduction.

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It

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did kind of boil down to a lot of vibes, like we feel like this will be

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negative there.

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I did speak to one of the lane commissioners, or the

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traffic transportation commissioners,

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who teaches this at Gonzaga, about what is the

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capacity of the street right now versus the

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capacity, and

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hand is one lane would be sufficient to

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probably handle the volume of traffic, and we would still have two lanes

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all the way past City Hall.

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There was a little concern over it squeezing down right here at the Post

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intersection, but it was reaffirmed it would maintain the two

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lanes and then the

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third going into the

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River Park Square because that's really just the parking lane anyway.

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There was also a presentation on the bike network that will be going

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into the comprehensive plan, and the updated bike

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network is

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kind of

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just a... It's redrawn in a way that really, instead of

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emphasizing like we have these streets and we should have

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a bike lane on this one and a shared street here, more of an

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overlay of the bike priority network that had been previously as an

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additional map and tiers one, two, and three,

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and then a separate guide of

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given traffic volumes and if it's tier one, two, or three

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as far as priority of beneficial to

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having bicycles on it, it would get certain treatments.

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And I think that it will be a much better way,

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especially for ongoing, instead of really being hard

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lined of we should put this here. It will allow us to

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evaluate specifically at the time of

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construction

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and given the priority identified in the comprehensive plan, here's

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the best thing to build on that street.

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Because it is part of the comp plan, so changes to it do require

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an amendment. So

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having something that allows us to kind of look at the city as

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a whole but continue for 20 years will be much more flexible and responsive

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to

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what we need to build.

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And there was a check-in on the

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TBD fee increase recommendation to kind of see

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where commissioners,

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how do they feel about increasing or not.

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Generally, there was a

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pretty strong support for going ahead

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at maybe having a hearing next month to increase the fee to

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$40, which would take us past just

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maintaining, with inflation, from where we started 10,

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15 years ago and adding money to the

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To the fund to allow

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additional projects on

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local access streets. There are some things happening in the

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state which could potentially help if they forward

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the heavy vehicle cap or remove that cap, which is at

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6,500 pounds right now. Which now,

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cars that people drive around, not just trucks, fall into that category these

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days. And currently, they are exempt from paying that

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fee.

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And there's also some effort to try and deal with the delinquent

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registration, people that just don't pay their registration.

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There was a check-in on the Cycle 15 traffic calming.

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There will, just kind of a review of what the matrix is taking into

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consideration. That will be

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applied and available next month.

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And then there was a quick hearing about sidewalk

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projects, just to essentially affirm a

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two-year plan instead of just a one-year

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for '27, so adopting for both '27 and '28 with some flexibility,

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given what happens on the ground. And one project was swapped from '27 to

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'28 so that we can see what's happening.

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It's right up at Francis. I think it's a...

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Well, now I can't remember if it's county or state.

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But

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their project,

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so that we don't duplicate work. And that

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update passed unanimously.

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Great. Thank you. Just curious if there's been any further

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discussion around EVs with the weight

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conversation.

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I haven't heard anything specifically.

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It would fall into...

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As far as an example, though, the only

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EV right now that hits or exceeds that cap

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is a Cybertruck.

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So-

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Rivian's 9,000 pounds.

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Whoa. Well- ... they do keep adding more gigantic-

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Yeah

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... EVs. So,

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that is at the state level. So I would definitely check in with

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figuring out-

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Yeah, considering exactly

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... what they're considering as far as if that cap would either just be

[00:26:29] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1589s
completely removed-

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Yeah

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... or raised. When it was put in there, the idea was that it

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wasn't going to apply to

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trucks delivering goods.

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Sure.

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But,

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yeah.

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Yeah, it's just an interesting conversation.

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Yeah. It is, yeah.

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EVs are heavy, batteries are heavy.

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Yeah.

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They're going to get lighter-

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And-

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... in the near future, but.

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Yeah. And I agree. I think it's one of those we

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couldn't have imagined, probably, a $9,000 passenger

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vehicle 15

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years ago. Although, those Hummers-

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Yeah

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... were also really popular for a while.

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And I think there are a lot of those.

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We need to make sure that we write whatever regulations going

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forward to accommodate what we can't even imagine.

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Yeah.

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And that we're not disincentivizing-

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Yeah

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... a transition-

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Right

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... that we're sort of broadly trying to encourage.

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Maybe we could encourage people to buy smaller-

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Yes

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... more reasonably ranged vehicles.

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Yes, or juice battery development-

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Yes.

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... to get the lighter batteries. Okay, thank you for that.

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Any questions?

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Mm-mm.

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Okay. Moving on to approval of the current agenda.

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Do I have a motion?

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Motion.

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Second.

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Okay.

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I'll aid.

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Motion and a second. Is there any discussion?

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Those opposed, nay.

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Okay, current agenda passes. And so with that, we will go right into

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fire response,

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allowing ADUs prior to principal dwelling.

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Yeah.

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I included some draft language in the packet

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that would have the effect of...

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Let me start over.

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Yeah.

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What our current regulations state is that if you wish to build an accessory

[00:28:11] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1691s
dwelling unit, that has to come after the principal

[00:28:14] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1694s
structure has been established.

[00:28:19] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1699s
One of the things we've heard from communities that

[00:28:22] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1702s
have been impacted by wildfire is that many property owners

[00:28:26] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1706s
actually wish to build an ADU first so that they can

[00:28:30] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1710s
establish themselves back on their property and then

[00:28:34] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1714s
turn their attention towards building the primary structure.

[00:28:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1717s
That's currently not allowed under our code.

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So we're looking for a way to allow for that to happen,

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because we know that's likely going to be a desire of people who are impacted

[00:28:47] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1727s
by the fires. As I've drafted it, this would be a change

[00:28:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1731s
that applies across the city.

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One of the questions that it has caused us to ask is,

[00:28:59] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1739s
why do we not allow somebody to build an ADU before they build the main

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house?

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And especially given that we allow for multiple structures on a lot anyway and

[00:29:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1749s
multiple housing units on a lot, I

[00:29:13] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1753s
guess it's kind of raising that question.

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And so I wanted to bring this forward for discussion.

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It is possible, I hinted at this in the secretary's report, it is possible

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that some form of this could happen on an emergency basis

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through rules that are adopted by city council without necessarily

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a planning commission hearing and all of that.

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But I guess we're

[00:29:40] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1780s
still developing some of the interim or emergency rules

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that we think make sense.

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And so there is a possibility that the planning commission could weigh in on a

[00:29:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1791s
topic like this.

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And it doesn't actually have to have a specific ordinance language

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attached to it.

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So whether it's the writing that is in your packet or

[00:30:04] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1804s
whether it comes in some other form,

[00:30:07] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1807s
it felt like it was worth having a discussion today and

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potentially holding a hearing At our

[00:30:14] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1814s
next scheduled meeting in September, so that the planning commission can weigh in

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on this and potentially other similar aspects

[00:30:22] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1822s
of development code that would be under consideration.

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So,

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I don't have a presentation for you.

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That's really all that would be proposed under what's drafted currently.

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And I guess I can take comments.

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I noticed that one of the items in there was regarding the

[00:30:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1839s
utilities such as water, which

[00:30:42] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1842s
has been suggested previously, but the city departments think that

[00:30:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1845s
going ahead having separate utilities is best practice,

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which we hadn't

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put into the code yet.

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And I think that makes sense. They are the experts in

[00:30:59] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1859s
understanding how those work, and I think just longevity as far as how

[00:31:03] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1863s
the land is used, it offers the opportunity for those

[00:31:07] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1867s
properties to be sold separately much more easily too, if

[00:31:12] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1872s
at some point the homeowner wanted to do that.

[00:31:15] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1875s
So I think that this would be definitely a good time to do that.

[00:31:18] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1878s
And regardless of whether

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someone can already choose to build a smaller unit

[00:31:26] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1886s
item, I think the question is what makes it an ADU versus just a

[00:31:30] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1890s
smaller unit?

[00:31:32] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1892s
However, regardless of where we land on that, I think it sends a

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good message, encouraging. So people

[00:31:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1899s
understand the concept of building an ADU, and it helps

[00:31:44] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1904s
streamline that messaging to homeowners that that's an option,

[00:31:47] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1907s
which might be harder for them to understand if you just tell them,

[00:31:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1911s
"You can build up. Here's your minimum square

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footage or

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setbacks," all that kind of stuff.

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So you mentioned there's been a lot of internal discussion... Sorry, Jill.

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No, go for it. I have my hand raised, though.

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Okay, perfect.

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Don't forget I'm here.

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Yes. Sorry. I need to just look up.

[00:32:13] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1933s
You mentioned there's been a lot of conversation going on internally.

[00:32:17] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1937s
What have been some items that have been proposed

[00:32:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1940s
as potential negative consequences of doing this?

[00:32:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1944s
Oh, doing the ADUs?

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Yeah.

[00:32:26] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1946s
I don't know that anybody has concerns about negative

[00:32:29] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1949s
consequences.

[00:32:32] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1952s
So, I think everybody, so far, feels like this makes a lot of

[00:32:36] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1956s
sense.

[00:32:38] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1958s
There are other topics that we've discussed. I'll give you another example.

[00:32:43] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1963s
There is discussion about what we would call a like for like rebuild.

[00:32:47] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1967s
Did I already mention that?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Similar to what Darren Watkins-

[00:32:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1971s
The garages are probably-

[00:32:52] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1972s
Your garages are in a place that we wouldn't currently allow them, but you just

[00:32:56] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1976s
want to rebuild your house. We're not going to tell you that you can't do that.

[00:33:00] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1980s
If we allow for a like for like rebuild, then you can come in and build

[00:33:04] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1984s
it back in substantially a similar configuration

[00:33:08] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1988s
and size and everything. And you would not have to then follow

[00:33:12] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1992s
some of our rules that would otherwise prevent you from doing that.

[00:33:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1996s
So that's another example.

[00:33:17] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1997s
Mm-hmm.

[00:33:18] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=1998s
Is that based on what's on file or something, as far as like-

[00:33:21] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2001s
Well, that's one of the topics that we're trying to figure out, is how

[00:33:25] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2005s
do we determine what's substantially similar?

[00:33:27] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2007s
How do we know what your square footage was or what the size of the building was?

[00:33:31] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2011s
Some of the newer buildings, we have those plans on file so we can compare, but for

[00:33:35] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2015s
the older ones, we don't.

[00:33:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2017s
Or anything that's been filed with the... Yeah.

[00:33:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2019s
Yeah. So we're trying to make sure that however we draft that language, that we

[00:33:42] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2022s
feel comfortable that we can enforce that, but also that it's giving people

[00:33:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2026s
peace of mind that they can actually move forward and they're not going to get

[00:33:49] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2029s
caught by gotchas in the process.

[00:33:52] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2032s
Okay. Jill?

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I have two comments, one for both of those things, ADU and like for like.

[00:33:59] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2039s
If I could start with like for like.

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I'm trying to think from a developer standpoint.

[00:34:05] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2045s
There's so much opportunity to build to

[00:34:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2049s
prior design standards, like cost savings and things like that, and just

[00:34:13] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2053s
being allowed to do it. And I think that that's really important for people who

[00:34:17] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2057s
want to move back into their homes.

[00:34:19] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2059s
And I'm also aware that there are people who try to

[00:34:23] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2063s
take advantage of tragedies. And

[00:34:26] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2066s
so is there some sort of system in place to verify that these are going

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to be owner occupants? Or

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what if a developer just buys a bunch of

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burnt-up land because the owners don't want to move back there, and then now

[00:34:41] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2081s
they can build based on certain design standards or however they want?

[00:34:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2086s
That's a good question, and also something we've talked about.

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I think our proposed approach would be

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that in order to qualify for the relief, you would need to be

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the

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owner who owned the property at the time of the fires.

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So if you've since sold it to a developer or somebody else-

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Okay

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... you can still build on the property, but you're going to be following today's

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standards just like anybody else building in the city.

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It's really only if you were the owner of the property at the time.

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Okay.

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Thank you. Also,

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regarding the ADU thing,

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I think this is

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fine

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to do that prior to the principal dwelling, but I do think there needs to be a very

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clear definition of what an ADU is.

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And I'm sure it's in there, and I just haven't had a chance to dig into the

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code of what an ADU is. But sometimes I see them as

[00:35:42] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2142s
essentially fancy sheds. They're home offices without any

[00:35:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2146s
plumbing or a kitchen or anything, and other times they're like tiny

[00:35:50] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2150s
homes.

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And I know that

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a shed can't be

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separate from a main building, and there

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are good reasons for that.

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So I think there's just some blurred lines here

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that, of course, I'm sure you know too, that will need to be

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defined.

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Yeah. Thank you. We do. It's not in the packet because it wasn't a code section we

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were looking to change, but there are some detailed definitions of accessory

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dwelling units.

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And one important distinction that I think you were hinting at, an

[00:36:26] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2186s
accessory dwelling unit has its own plumbing

[00:36:30] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2190s
and kitchen and bathroom on-site facilities, whereas a shed

[00:36:34] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2194s
with bunk beds in it or something would not qualify as

[00:36:38] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2198s
an ADU and-

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Okay, great

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... would be treated differently.

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Great. Thank you.

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You were, Tim?

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It seems like

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we,

[00:36:50] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2210s
in general, help make it as easy as possible for people to rebuild

[00:36:54] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2214s
and utilize their land that were hit by the tragedy is really important.

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But there's a discussion we're not having, which is this is a

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high likelihood of another fire rolling through this

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area. We're increasing density.

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So I think that at least deserves some discussion.

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And then I haven't heard anything about

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metal roofs or materials or anything else.

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Like for like, I generally understand, but if we're just going to

[00:37:22] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2242s
set ourselves up for a repeat and add some density with some ADUs,

[00:37:27] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2247s
it feels like there needs to be a little more conversation about...

[00:37:32] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2252s
I can understand like for like footprint, you want to rebuild your house, but is

[00:37:35] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2255s
there any discussion yet about metal roofs or not

[00:37:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2259s
having as big an overhang or having the ability to have a

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sprinkler on the roof?

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So,

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I think Jesse gave an impassioned talk about this is going to happen again,

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and so I think we have to weave those two

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conversations together to really make a informed

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decision.

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Yeah. So one of the challenges that we have is,

[00:38:04] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2284s
questions about building materials are generally reserved to the building code,

[00:38:08] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2288s
which is not something that the Planning Commission is involved in.

[00:38:11] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2291s
And in fact, as a city, we don't have a lot of control locally about the

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building code. That happens at the state level through the State Building Code

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Council.

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So,

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I guess for your awareness, there have been discussions

[00:38:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2304s
about WUI code and mandating certain building

[00:38:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2308s
materials or building practices in WUI areas.

[00:38:32] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2312s
And one of the challenges that they've had in the past is that

[00:38:36] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2316s
there's disagreement about the maps, about where exactly the WUI is.

[00:38:41] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2321s
That's neither here nor there from the city's perspective because that's a state

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thing, and so we're just taking what the state tells us.

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And there has been a lot of discussion about that in the wake of the fires.

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I think there's some frustration feeling like we need to

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have this figured out.

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And the Building Code Council is actively working on it, but it is not something

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that we would generally address in our zoning code.

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It is more of a building code thing.

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And so I guess I would say those topics are being

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discussed, and they are being considered.

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It's just that the zoning code is not the place where those would typically be

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handled.

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Yeah. And I guess speaking from experience as somebody who's used the Wild and

[00:39:25] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2365s
Debris code in the city,

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essentially a little bit of history is the

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state

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published the code, published the maps.

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Cities could voluntarily adopt the code.

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City of Spokane chose to voluntarily adopt the code, and then because of some

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conflicts at the state level, they actually

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rescinded the code because of questions about the mapping.

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On our specific architectural project, we chose to follow, by choice,

[00:39:54] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2394s
the code anyway because we saw the benefits of it for that project.

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But it would be difficult for the city to require something when there's not

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even consistent mapping for it from the state level.

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Yeah.

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And so it is

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seemingly out of our control until the state establishes

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more consistent guidelines.

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Yeah. And again, there are active discussions about that.

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I think the Building Code Council is

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discussing how they're going to resolve that mapping issue.

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What's to stop someone from building an ADU and just calling it a day?

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Meaning they build an ADU under what we're talking about, and then they

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decide, "I'm done building..."

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Just landscape the rest.

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Well, I suppose that's a risk we could take.

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If we-

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All those weird little tiny houses on the South Hill that are at the back of the

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lot.

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Yeah.

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100 years ago were-

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And then that would be their

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main residence.

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Yeah.

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Well, I'll speak on behalf of the planning department since I'm the planning

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director.

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I don't think it makes sense to put extra checks in there-

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Sure

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... to force somebody 10 years later to build something.

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Sure.

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Administratively, that would be difficult for the city, and I don't think that's in

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the interest of the property owners.

[00:41:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2469s
Sure.

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So this is a case where we would-

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Accept it

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... certainly hope to see additional construction.

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Yeah.

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But it's probably, at least as a response to the wildfire,

[00:41:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2480s
probably worth the risk that somebody might just decide not to build.

[00:41:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2484s
Yeah. So it could be done.

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Yeah.

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Fair enough.

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Yeah. I was just going to kind of piggyback on what Kyle and also what you and

[00:41:31] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2491s
Spencer were saying about the WUI codes there.

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We're not even really addressing the enforcement of these WUI codes

[00:41:38] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2498s
either, are we, at this level?

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At the Plan Commission?

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Correct.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's really done by the building official and the reviewers of the-

[00:41:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2506s
As we know, that's really not being enforced or hasn't been

[00:41:49] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2509s
previously to these things either.

[00:41:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2511s
So if you start talking about WUI codes and

[00:41:54] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2514s
implementing these things, and then you have to talk about reinforcing these things

[00:41:58] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2518s
and who's going to be doing

[00:42:02] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2522s
so we don't run into these problems again, of course.

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Yeah. We're out of time.

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Yes.

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Can I make one last comment?

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Please.

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The only other question I have in terms of how these lots develop in

[00:42:13] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2533s
the future, say I build an ADU first, and I skimmed through,

[00:42:17] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2537s
there was a lot to the packet, so I skimmed through the information, but

[00:42:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2540s
would we require them to show... I guess the one thought I have

[00:42:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2544s
is we want to make sure that the remainder of that lot remains developable in the

[00:42:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2548s
future. That the way that the ADU is sited is not going to prevent future

[00:42:31] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2551s
development. And so potentially just requiring, at least showing

[00:42:36] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2556s
A footprint, even if it's not the footprint they end up building later, so that

[00:42:38] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2558s
it's clear that a primary residence could be built.

[00:42:41] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2561s
Was that something that was already in the draft language?

[00:42:43] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2563s
It's not in the draft. That's a good point.

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I think we could take a look at some language to ensure that.

[00:42:49] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2569s
That's probably an easy one that we could accommodate,

[00:42:53] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2573s
yeah.

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Okay. Well, let's

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move on.

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Can I quickly just-

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Yes, please

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... ask,

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is there a desire to have some kind of hearing on this topic to provide a

[00:43:05] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2585s
recommendation to council? And if so, generally we ask for a motion to go to a

[00:43:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2589s
hearing.

[00:43:10] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2590s
I anticipate we would probably not have specific code for you to hold your hearing

[00:43:14] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2594s
on. It would maybe be more like a bullet point list of, here are some elements that

[00:43:18] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2598s
we think need to be included in kinds of relief that are being talked about.

[00:43:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2604s
So is there-

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I guess you mentioned that there may or may not be action pending

[00:43:30] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2610s
from council that would touch on this.

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Are you thinking that our conversation would occur prior to

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that?

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I guess I don't know. I don't have a specific timeline

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from-

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Okay

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... as far as when council is going to-

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Because I'd imagine they want to move fast on this

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... have the package in front of them. Generally, yes.

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Right.

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And that is sort of the challenge here-

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Right

[00:43:52] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2632s
... is we do want to move fast.

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Right.

[00:43:53] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2633s
And it may be that by the time we schedule a hearing in

[00:43:57] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2637s
two or three weeks or whenever it is, that there's already action been

[00:44:01] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2641s
taken, and it's kind of too late anyway.

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Well, and I guess, in a very least then there's this conversation for them to

[00:44:07] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2647s
draw from.

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Yeah.

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I don't think there's any harm in

[00:44:11] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2651s
having a hearing to make some of those recommendations and then canceling it if

[00:44:14] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2654s
it's found to be unnecessary.

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Okay.

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Is that reasonable? Do we have other thoughts?

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Is council tracking any of this? Are they on board? Or they know generally?

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Yes. They're aware that we're working on things.

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Okay.

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So yeah. They've been very engaged and-

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Yeah

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... definitely interested in finding relief.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I'd agree. I think that it makes sense to have a hearing, but we wouldn't

[00:44:35] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2675s
want the hearing to slow down the process.

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Yeah.

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So if the process happens before the hearing, that's great.

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Yes.

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Agreed.

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Yep.

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So then I would entertain a motion to have a hearing on this.

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I move we send the ADU update to hearing.

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Second that.

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We have motion and second. Is there any discussion?

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Aye. Aye.

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Those opposed, nay.

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Okay.

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We're hearing-

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Thank you

[00:45:00] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2700s
... if we need it.

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On to Plan Spokane adoption timeline.

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Yeah. So I mentioned we'd talk about this.

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As you have probably seen, there's some discussion

[00:45:11] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2711s
about what our adoption timeline should be in the wake of the

[00:45:14] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2714s
fires.

[00:45:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2716s
We were at city council last week to give them an update of

[00:45:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2720s
this nature, and I'll tell you the same thing I told them.

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Right now, we are in the middle of a public comment period, but

[00:45:27] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2727s
the work is effectively paused. We have not set an end

[00:45:31] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2731s
date for that public comment period yet.

[00:45:34] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2734s
And we also have not scheduled any hearings.

[00:45:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2737s
We're at the stage of the project, and this was true before the fires hit,

[00:45:42] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2742s
where the majority of the work is complete, and we're now

[00:45:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2746s
really just at the final public comment stage and

[00:45:49] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2749s
hearings. So

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as far as from the staff's perspective,

[00:45:56] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2756s
there isn't rework needed. There's not a need to go back

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and reevaluate different things.

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In fact, one of the things we shared with city council was

[00:46:07] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2767s
the various

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policies in the comp plan

[00:46:11] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2771s
that are significantly improved in the new version

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related to evacuation, emergency response, wildfire preparedness,

[00:46:19] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2779s
all of those things.

[00:46:21] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2781s
And so in a way, it's probably in our interest to keep moving forward so that

[00:46:25] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2785s
we have that better policy guidance.

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Anyway,

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we don't

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have specific dates, and I think one of the things we would like to discuss with

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the planning commission is

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when is the appropriate time to,

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I guess, hit the button again and

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let the process continue.

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That would really just involve determining an end date for our

[00:46:54] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2814s
public comment period. And I think the more salient question for planning

[00:46:57] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2817s
commission is going to a hearing. So we could discuss

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some potential dates for a hearing.

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And I have some dates that we've identified that are open.

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One note, and you'll notice this today, our hearing today is actually going to be

[00:47:12] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2832s
in this room because city council has changed their schedule, and now we

[00:47:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2836s
cannot be in chambers on Wednesday afternoons because they're preparing for their

[00:47:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2840s
legislative meeting.

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So, we have assumed that there's a desire for the comp plan to

[00:47:25] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2845s
hold the hearing in city council chambers, which means it will not be a

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Wednesday afternoon. We would schedule it for a different time.

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So the dates that we've identified would not be Wednesdays.

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And I can give you the list of dates,

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just to give you an idea of what's available, and then maybe we can have a

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discussion about whether that seems like a reasonable timeline for us to

[00:47:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2866s
proceed on, or whether there's a desire to

[00:47:50] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2870s
continue with our pause and maybe take a little more time.

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So should I just read off those dates first?

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Yeah.

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I probably should've just written them on the board somewhere.

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So, October 5th,

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October 12th, October 19th.

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And those are all... Are those Mondays, Terrell? Do you know? Yes, they are.

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Mondays? Monday. Okay. And then October 21st and 22nd are also

[00:48:15] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2895s
available.

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So that would be, what? A Wednesday. Is that a...

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21st is- 21st is a Wednesday. Okay. And 22nd. So that one could be challenging.

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October 22nd would be a Thursday.

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And then those were dates that we had already identified

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earlier on before the fires as sort of later dates that

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we would keep available.

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And then we've identified some new dates in November.

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So November 2nd, 9th, and 16th. Those are all Mondays.

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Would also be dates that are available, and we feel,

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at least on the staff side, that we could be ready for.

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Again, I think what the input we're really hoping for is, how are you feeling about

[00:48:57] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2937s
your preparedness? And also,

[00:49:01] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2941s
how do you feel about the ability for the public to re-engage after

[00:49:05] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2945s
the fires, and have an opportunity to really be

[00:49:08] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2948s
involved?

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Yeah.

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So those are some ideas for dates. And again, we can also

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push it further along if there's a desire to wait into

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December or something like that.

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And that's really all we had to say. And thanks for coming up, Tyrrell.

[00:49:25] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2965s
This is impacting her work more than anybody.

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Yeah.

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Well, I had-

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Yeah, say how it-

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... sort of an additional question, too.

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If

[00:49:33] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2973s
we can continue to workshop items or if you would

[00:49:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2977s
like, and maybe a special meeting to review the whole

[00:49:40] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2980s
document.

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Or if you feel like you know it, you've done

[00:49:47] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2987s
your subcommittee work, we've been going over all the

[00:49:50] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2990s
sections,

[00:49:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2991s
but of course some of them, it's been a while.

[00:49:54] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2994s
So,

[00:49:56] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=2996s
this is a challenge because it's such a big package.

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I mean-

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To me, I think you know it, but I was like, "Well-"

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My thought is that the hearing is the right place to-

[00:50:08] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3008s
Okay

[00:50:08] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3008s
... have that kind of wrap-up conversation.

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Yeah.

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It's going to be a long hearing. My guess is it's probably going to get continued.

[00:50:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3016s
Yes.

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The presentation-

[00:50:18] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3018s
Is-

[00:50:18] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3018s
... of the hearing-

[00:50:19] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3019s
Yeah

[00:50:19] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3019s
... it's going to be a big summary of-

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Right. Right

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So that, I think, jives for me. Any

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other thoughts on that item?

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So a hearing date with a likely

[00:50:33] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3033s
continued or potentially continuing-

[00:50:35] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3035s
I would be shocked if it wasn't continued.

[00:50:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3037s
Yes. I've seen this with bigger items, that sometimes the

[00:50:41] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3041s
place to pause is after

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a staff presentation, public comment.

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Yeah.

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Then we're many hours in.

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Yeah.

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You can pause and then continue, close the record and continue

[00:50:52] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3052s
deliberations in a additional hearing time.

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Yeah. Agreed.

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Okay.

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With respect to dates, when was sort of the original

[00:51:01] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3061s
target date? Do you know?

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We were-

[00:51:05] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3065s
We were hoping-

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... September.

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Was it in September?

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Well, we were hoping for early October.

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Okay.

[00:51:10] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3070s
Oh, that-

[00:51:11] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3071s
And then that, in order we were hitting council states.

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Yeah.

[00:51:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3076s
Now in our study session, council felt

[00:51:19] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3079s
Q1

[00:51:21] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3081s
might be, of 2027.

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We're there.

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We're there.

[00:51:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3084s
We're there. Yeah, for sure.

[00:51:25] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3085s
So that puts us comfortably in early November.

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Yeah. I think we need to,

[00:51:33] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3093s
in the public comments that we received, there are, I think, very valid points

[00:51:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3097s
about community members' lives being disrupted and needing opportunity

[00:51:41] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3101s
to digest the whole thing, and I think we need to honor

[00:51:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3105s
that. I think it's really important, and we need to

[00:51:48] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3108s
demonstrably push off of the target, the

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original target date, to show that we've heard that.

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And so if we're fine from a timing perspective, I would

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advocate for a November

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time, and probably on the early side, assuming that we're going to

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have a second go.

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That just gives us some time. Pushing into the teens of November starts

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to get a little bit tough, and then we're into the holidays.

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So I would think an early November.

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So we had November 2nd and then November 9th is also available, that could be

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sort of our-

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I would hope-

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... date and then a back-

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Backup or secondary

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... yeah.

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Or second, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Do we have other thoughts on that?

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I have other thoughts. So I guess the first is,

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I know that technically we're a

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2026 community, timeline thinking.

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How does the state feel?

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Well, yeah. One, I'm sure that the state was probably going to be accommodating

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based on the fires, but

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what is the impact of delaying the council's final

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decision and our

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recommendation?

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In terms of the deadline imposed by the state?

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Yeah. Mm-hmm.

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We're still having discussions with the state.

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We would not be the first community in the state to be late with our comp

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plan. So in that sense, I don't

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anticipate there being any real negative impacts.

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It's been our intent all along to meet the deadline, and we're

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not hearing from the state that they are going to...

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How should I put this? They are aware of our situation, and they have

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indicated that they will be-

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Amenable.

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Yeah. They are not going to be

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coming down hard on us for not meeting the deadline.

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Right.

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There may be some official extension, or there may not be an official extension,

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but essentially for our purposes, it doesn't really matter.

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Yeah. My second question is, does delaying it

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also impact the Build Spokane timeline process or,

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I mean-

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That's what my question is, so there you go.

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I don't think so.

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Again, I hope it's all-

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As long as we keep them close together.

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Yes. So yeah, Build Spokane is,

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and for the public or others who maybe aren't aware, Build Spokane

[00:54:12] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3252s
is sort of the zoning code side of this.

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So we do our comp plan update, and then our development code

[00:54:18] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3258s
is updated consistent with what our comp plan is

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telling us.

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And so the Build Spokane side of things is related to this, but it

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kind of lags because you really need to know what your comp plan says before you

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then adopt development code about it.

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So,

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that work was already

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anticipated to be quarter one of 2027, and

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I don't think this has really pushed that timeline very much

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We've already had our consultant on that project doing work, and

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they are not impacted by the fires, and so they've been able to continue working

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throughout all of this.

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Awesome. That makes sense.

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Yeah.

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My last question or comment is just that I think that there is a lot of

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question in the community about

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the status of the proposed comprehensive plan and how it relates to

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wildfire risk and emergency preparedness.

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And so just ensuring that if we're going to delay this, that maybe there's an

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opportunity to specifically highlight anything

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that's relevant to wildfire and emergency preparedness so that people have the

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opportunity to

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review it specifically-

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Mm

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... and make a comment to it.

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That's a really good point.

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So that it doesn't feel like, well, we didn't have to change anything.

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Yeah.

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But maybe what we have there is already adequate, or we should at least highlight

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it.

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Maybe similar to what you already presented to city council?

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Yeah. We do have a summary there. So a lot of this-

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Yeah

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... I think, is just communicating out what's in the current plan.

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Another thing we like to highlight is

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the map identifying arterial routes has

[00:55:50] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3350s
several updates that are intended to provide better redundancy in the road

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network,

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which is important in an evacuation event.

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So there are some things that are already in the plan that we think are

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addressing some of the concerns. Certainly, if we get comments that are

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identifying an additional need, there is still time for those

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adjustments to occur, and this pause that we're in is giving

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us some of that extra time.

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I almost wonder if there's an opportunity to do a short sort of

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just review workshop of wildfire-

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Yeah

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... related issues in here.

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Maybe we could pull it into the public record.

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Yeah.

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We could do that at our next workshop.

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Yeah.

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And then-

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I would appreciate that

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... put an item in.

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Yeah. Okay.

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We've really got to cut this off. So do you have everything that you need?

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So are we comfortable with November 2nd, and then holding a date for November

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9th for a potential continuation?

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah. Is it the same time?

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Well, we've got the room reserved from anywhere from 1:00 to 6:00

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PM.

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We

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don't have to start at 1:00 if it's better to start a little bit later.

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Yeah, I think for the purposes of public comment, we should try to start-

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Yeah

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... later. Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Are you

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thinking maybe actually an evening meeting?

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Like starting at-

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Yeah.

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Yeah

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... 4:00-ish instead-

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Yeah

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... and then holding the room until later in the evening?

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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Okay, we can check and confirm. I don't anticipate that that

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room is unavailable at that time.

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It's the day before the election.

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Oh, interesting.

[00:57:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3444s
Third party.

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Huh.

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Touchy.

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Well, anyway, we'll look and-

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Okay

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... if that's the desire of Planning Commission, yes-

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Yeah

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... we'll try to push that time later in the day in the interest of making sure the

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public can come and-

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I think it's a really good idea.

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Thank you. Make sure it happens.

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Yeah. Indeed. Okay.

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Thank you.

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Let's move on to six-year CIP with Della and Jacob,

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and we're really, really sorry that we're so late.

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It's just me.

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Okay. With just Della. We're really, really sorry.

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Good afternoon, everyone.

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Hi.

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My name is Della Matunji with Planning, and today I'll be giving a brief

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introduction of the city's Capital Improvement Program.

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Many of you might already be familiar, as we bring this to the Plan Commission

[00:58:10] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3490s
every year. But if you aren't, I'll go over what this is in the next few

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slides.

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Thank

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you.

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Or I can look for you.

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Just tell me when to move.

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Okay.

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Yeah, so we'll look at what the Capital Improvement Program is.

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We'll also look at its relationship to the comprehensive plan, and then we'll look

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at next steps as we move this through Plan Commission.

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So the CIP is a description of all the capital projects that the

[00:58:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3525s
city hopes to implement in the next six years, together with their

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funding sources and timelines,

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and it's updated every year as new funding sources are identified

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and new projects are expanded or added.

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And once it's updated, it's adopted by City Council as part of the

[00:59:02] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3542s
budget process and added to the comprehensive plan as an appendix.

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I'll make several references to the comprehensive plan, but I'm referring to

[00:59:13] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3553s
Shape in Spokane, our current comprehensive plan, as Plan Spokane

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has not yet been adopted.

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So the comprehensive plan has a 20-year capital facilities plan,

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which basically has an inventory of all the city's public infrastructure,

[00:59:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3568s
public and capital facilities. It also tells us what

[00:59:32] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3572s
we need to accommodate future growth and also maintain our

[00:59:36] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3576s
standard levels of service.

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And the CIP, which is what I'm talking about today, is

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the financing blueprint for the capital facilities plan.

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That's updated every year, and it's a required part of the budget approval

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process.

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And the budget is also updated annually every year.

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So the goal is to get this process through Plan Commission, so

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before the budget office can take the budget through City Council in

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November.

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So what projects do we find in the CIP?

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The project has to be a tangible asset, so it cannot be something like labor

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or insurance or training, but it could be something like

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firefighting equipment or a facility.

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It also has to have a useful life of five-plus years.

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It has to have a value of 60,000 or more for a single

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item.

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The project has to be listed in chapter four or five of the comprehensive plan.

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Those are our transportation chapters and capital facilities and utilities

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chapters.

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And then it also has to meet and address some state or federal requirement.

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A lot on funding. CIPs are generally financially constrained.

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This means that project funding has to be identified before we put it in

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the CIP. But the City of Spokane includes projects that are not

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funded yet for visibility purposes, but also to highlight

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what projects we need that we don't have funding for yet.

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So when you get the opportunity to look at the CIP, you'll see all these projects

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and which of them are partially funded and which of them are unfunded.

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But unfunded projects are not included into the budget program, because that would

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inflate the budget. So we'd only have funded projects in the budget.

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Our relationship to the comprehensive plan.

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So Plan Commission considers the CIP each year, focusing on projects

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that impact our capacity to serve water and sewer.

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Next month, I'll come back in a more detailed workshop

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to show what projects these are. We'll only look at new and expanded

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projects, because all the others have been through Plan Commission in the years

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prior to this one.

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And then,

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once we go through those projects, you'll have an opportunity to see where these

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projects are located generally around the city.

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Once Plan Commission makes its recommendation, we'll move it to

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City Council. City Council will approve, and then it will be added

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to the budget.

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Relationship between Plan Commission and City Council.

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Plan Commission focuses on projects affecting capacity.

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Plan Commission also focuses on alignment of those projects with a comprehensive

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plan. So when you have the opportunity to look at the CIP, you'll see

[01:02:27] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3747s
that each project is listed together with the comprehensive plan goals it

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supports. So you won't have to flip through the comprehensive plan to

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find what aligns with a particular project.

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We'll also focus on overall vision and plan in the

[01:02:42] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3762s
comprehensive plan, and then Plan Commission will make a recommendation to

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City Council. City Council, on the other hand, will look at an

[01:02:49] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=3769s
overview of the program.

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We'll also discuss and consider projects on a wide range of topics, so

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like funding sources, funding amounts, funding

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timelines,

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and then they'll make the final approval decision for the CIP.

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So for next steps, we do have the CIP drafted out already.

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I will share a link of that with all of you.

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And I'll also highlight what projects that Plan Commission should focus on.

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And then next week, September 1st, we will initiate a

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combined agency and public comment period, which will run for 30

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days. Before the 30 days elapse, I'll come back here

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with someone from the budget office to go over the

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capacity-affecting projects.

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And then we'll hopefully have a hearing in October, and then pass it

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over to the budget office to take it to City Council.

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And that's all I had today.

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Wonderful. Thank you. We have any questions for Della?

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A quick question. I read in the paper the City Council's looking at

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spending 17 million to purchase one of the Rockwell buildings to

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replace some expensive leases. And that seems like a good idea.

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I'm assuming that kind of thing is outside the scope of the CIP

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review we would do because it's not necessarily related to

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the expanding capacity of what's in our

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comprehensive plan, so.

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Yes, I believe so. That's-

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Yeah. That is correct.

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Okay. Anything else?

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Very good. Well, thank you, Della. We'll look forward to seeing you next time.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. All right,

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moving on to the flume with Kevin and Brandon.

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Just a second, sorry.

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No, that's all right.

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It was actually going to be Brandon and Terrill.

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Brandon and Terrill.

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We're gonna give Kevin a rest.

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Good.

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As Kevin-

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So-

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Yeah. As Brandon makes his way up here, we should note that-

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Yes

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... Kevin actually has dedicated a significant amount of his time

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since the fires to the Disaster Response Center,

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and has been instrumental in orchestrating the city's

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response to the disaster.

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So unfortunately, that means for us, he has not really been

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involved in anything for the last few weeks.

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But I do think it's worth just

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noting his involvement there and recognizing that

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he's done an excellent job there, and he's missed here.

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Well done, Kevin. Bravo.

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He's back. And we also had a lot... Most of our

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staff spent time at the Disaster Assistance Center, along with

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311 staff and our CHHS

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staff. So we really did pause

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our work and leave the long-range planning behind for a

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few weeks there.

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Thank you all.

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So we helped with that, so. And we were happy to do that, but we have

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been away.

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So,

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Brandon.

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Brandon Whitmarsh. Terrill's joining me for at least the,

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certainly the first few slides.

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Again, a topic you're very familiar with, the future land use map.

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We'll do a brief presentation, and then we'll hop into the interactive map that

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we've talked about many times and actually be able to explore and

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talk about specific areas and those kinds of things and explore the draft proposal.

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Hand it off to Terrill.

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Yeah, I just wanted to remind you that we adopted the preferred

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alternative. So we did go here. It was

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more of the blob map. We were vague about actually

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down to parcel level, but it let us identify areas of the

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city for staff to work through for

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land use changes. That was April 14th of this

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year, 2026, with Plan Commission hearing,

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and then City Council in May ... of this year

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also adopted the preferred alternative by resolution.

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So that gave us clear direction to develop the future land use map.

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The future land use map

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is now called the land use plan map in the Shaping Spokane version,

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and it's part of the land use chapter since we're renaming land

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use to growth strategy, or that's another thing I know you're getting some comment

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on. So

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think about that. Do you want it still to be land use chapter or growth strategy?

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But the growth strategy chapter then would contain this

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future land use map as one of the maps.

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You all probably understand that, but I want the public to

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understand we're calling out this particular map

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that is of particular interest and importance, but it is part of the

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comprehensive plan.

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So we're also continuing to work on the final environmental impact

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statement. We are doing review with our consultants,

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and so that also reflects the preferred alternative.

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So we anticipate that being done,

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late September

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was our target date with the consultant when we were thinking we were having the

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hearing in October. But we're trying to get that done also and have that

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available and completed prior to your hearing.

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So

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we've talked about Building Spokane too, that's part of implementing the

[01:08:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4104s
comprehensive plan, so that's really one of our next action items.

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And as you all know, to implement the comp plan, it also takes action

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of different programs and incentive

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programs, things like that to actually

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make things happen. And then, of course, we will be returning to the

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five-year check-in.

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For us, that's 2031.

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That will give the city information about how we're doing on housing units.

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We are mandated to report our permitting times

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to the state,

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so how fast a building permit is processed, that sort of

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information. We also will look at greenhouse gas

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emissions and vehicle miles traveled.

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But also, it's come up in conversation, how are we going to address

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the housing allocation with the

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loss of units from the fire? We've had some discussion with

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commerce.

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Because the whole regional allocation process was pretty

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complicated, we're going to continue to use our forecast numbers.

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Those are 20-year numbers. We hope that this

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loss of units is addressed within

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quicker time, like maybe five years.

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And the law really didn't contemplate a loss of units.

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But we do wanna recognize that, but we think

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at our five-year check-in, 2031, hopefully we'll have

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information at that time about the rebuild, the type of

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units rebuilt,

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all that information on top of what we already need to report.

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So we'll obviously be looking at that at our five-year

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check-in too.

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I divert a bit from the flow, but felt like a good

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addition to the conversation. So with that, Brandon's got the next slides.

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So just a quick reminder for members of the public what the future land

[01:10:23] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4223s
use map is in the first place and the designations within it.

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Again, we're talking about that 20-year future focus.

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And though each of these designations that are proposed through Plan Spokane

[01:10:34] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4234s
are available as part of the growth strategy online, you can read each of the

[01:10:38] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4238s
designations, the information about them, what kinds of things you might expect in

[01:10:42] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4242s
those designations and those kinds of things.

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And then within each of those designations, as we've stated multiple times,

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the high likelihood of having multiple scheme categories

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implementing any individual land use.

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But those will be determined as part of Build Spokane.

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So the very first step, again, as we started this process, was a conversion

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of the existing land uses, which we have 19 of them, to

[01:11:07] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4267s
the nine land use proposed under Plan Spokane.

[01:11:11] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4271s
This is really a consolidation to make things a little bit more clean,

[01:11:15] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4275s
streamlined, which is a consistent goal of the plan from the

[01:11:18] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4278s
start.

[01:11:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4280s
So as part of this, people might see

[01:11:23] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4283s
changes in land use names that aren't necessarily substantive

[01:11:26] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4286s
changes to their land use. And so we would just want to remind people

[01:11:31] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4291s
that whether it's one of those centers and corridors

[01:11:35] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4295s
type things, generally, that was already a mixed-use type

[01:11:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4299s
land use, it will continue on as a mixed-use type land use.

[01:11:42] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4302s
Those kinds of things where the name might change, but there might not be a

[01:11:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4305s
substantive change.

[01:11:47] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4307s
Realistically speaking, the main places in which

[01:11:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4311s
those substantive changes occurred truly were in those preferred alternative areas,

[01:11:55] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4315s
and which I'll show that on the next slide.

[01:11:57] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4317s
The only changes we made outside of this conversion

[01:12:01] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4321s
that don't necessarily show up in the maps because it was a choice

[01:12:05] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4325s
that we made based on public feedback, was to establish

[01:12:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4329s
all parks, the river, and the river as open space to

[01:12:12] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4332s
start with. Not all of those places were previously designated as open

[01:12:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4336s
space, and we heard the community's strong desire for

[01:12:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4340s
designating open space and made that conscious decision,

[01:12:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4344s
not part of that draft proposal, but just as a decision.

[01:12:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4348s
And so that increased the open space by 16% in the city.

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So we just want to acknowledge that

[01:12:33] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4353s
some of those things were built into that original change, not necessarily into

[01:12:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4357s
that draft moving forward.

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As Tara mentioned,

[01:12:43] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4363s
the preferred alternative, which came to hearing with you as well as

[01:12:47] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4367s
city council, really highlighted the direction

[01:12:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4371s
of those proposed draft land use changes in that map and that

[01:12:55] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4375s
built engagement

[01:12:57] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4377s
in those discussions

[01:12:59] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4379s
So just so you can see here,

[01:13:03] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4383s
the preferred alternative was largely along those major transit

[01:13:06] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4386s
corridors, looking for increasing housing intensity as

[01:13:10] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4390s
well as commercial and mixed use

[01:13:13] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4393s
along and at intersections and those kinds of things.

[01:13:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4396s
And you can see that the proposed changes, which are what are kind of

[01:13:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4400s
pulled out on the right map,

[01:13:22] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4402s
align with that preferred alternative.

[01:13:27] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4407s
And so that's kind of where those

[01:13:30] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4410s
substantive changes are coming from.

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And as we've told you many times, we've been working towards an interactive

[01:13:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4419s
map where people can search for addresses, look at the proposed changes,

[01:13:44] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4424s
provide location-specific comments, and I'll be showing that at the end

[01:13:48] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4428s
of this presentation, and we can really explore that,

[01:13:50] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4430s
as well as sliders for each of the neighborhoods.

[01:13:52] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4432s
So without using the actual interactive tool, you can just look at a before and

[01:13:56] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4436s
after picture and not

[01:13:58] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4438s
need the extra technology

[01:14:03] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4443s
aspect of that.

[01:14:06] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4446s
And as Tyrrell and Spencer both mentioned, we are currently in our

[01:14:10] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4450s
public comment period for the entirety of the comprehensive

[01:14:14] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4454s
plan. So that includes the comprehensive plan chapters that were updated, and I

[01:14:17] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4457s
guess that includes the land use and other maps as well.

[01:14:21] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4461s
It includes the appendices that are available.

[01:14:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4464s
Transportation is the only one that's still in the works, but the rest of the

[01:14:26] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4466s
appendices are also available.

[01:14:29] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4469s
So we did open that public comment period as planned, but

[01:14:33] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4473s
did not have a defined end date. Still do not.

[01:14:36] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4476s
But it sounds like we're looking towards a November hearing for planning

[01:14:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4479s
commission. So that next step remains that hearing, of which

[01:14:43] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4483s
we'll receive all of the information collectively.

[01:14:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4486s
So if people have comments, whether it's on the chapters or the land use maps, they

[01:14:50] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4490s
can email planSpokane@spokanecity.org.

[01:14:53] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4493s
They can use the interactive story map, which we'll go through how to do those

[01:14:56] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4496s
location-specific comments. We also have pre-addressed postcards

[01:15:00] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4500s
at City Hall that people can write out their comments and send them in.

[01:15:03] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4503s
We just want to make sure that, if you are doing a location-specific comment,

[01:15:08] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4508s
and you're writing it or emailing it to us, please let us know the intersection,

[01:15:12] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4512s
address, something that we can really identify, and

[01:15:15] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4515s
pinpoint where the location of that comment is.

[01:15:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4520s
And then that next step for the FLUM specifically is

[01:15:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4524s
integrating that public feedback, the continued discussions with planning

[01:15:27] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4527s
commission. We'll be able to look through the draft proposal today,

[01:15:32] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4532s
as well as have time scheduled for your next workshop as well on September

[01:15:36] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4536s
9th.

[01:15:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4537s
And then again, the next step being the

[01:15:40] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4540s
entire comp plan at planning commission hearing, followed by

[01:15:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4545s
2027 adoption by city council.

[01:15:49] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4549s
So with that, again, all of the information we're talking about here is on

[01:15:52] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4552s
planSpokane.org, and if you have any questions or comments, please email

[01:15:55] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4555s
planSpokane@spokanecity.org.

[01:15:58] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4558s
Are there any questions before I hop into...

[01:16:01] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4561s
I have a question specific about the map, but it kind of does apply to the

[01:16:05] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4565s
whole comprehensive plan.

[01:16:08] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4568s
When do we anticipate the lock-in date

[01:16:12] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4572s
for the map? Like, of changes that might have happened as a

[01:16:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4576s
result of public comment,

[01:16:18] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4578s
will that just be the staff packet prior to the hearing?

[01:16:23] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4583s
Yes.

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Yeah.

[01:16:25] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4585s
So that we can just kind of know like as long as we're familiar

[01:16:29] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4589s
with that, we don't have to worry about additional amendments

[01:16:33] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4593s
for keeping track of other public comment.

[01:16:35] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4595s
Yeah. We're, we're trying to now have a public comment period to get to a

[01:16:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4599s
planning commission draft.

[01:16:43] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4603s
Yeah.

[01:16:43] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4603s
So yes. So-

[01:16:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4605s
Once it's a draft for... Oh, go ahead

[01:16:47] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4607s
... now that we're closer to a hearing date, we can

[01:16:50] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4610s
do the back end work, and I could respond to that at the next meeting, if

[01:16:54] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4614s
that's okay.

[01:16:57] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4617s
I was just saying once it was a hearing draft, the only changes that are made are

[01:17:01] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4621s
through-

[01:17:01] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4621s
At the hearing

[01:17:02] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4622s
... the process at the hearing.

[01:17:04] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4624s
Yeah. At the hearing.

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Yeah.

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Quick shout-out too. You guys have been doing awesome with the outreach.

[01:17:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4629s
I want to give a quick shout-out to O&S for doing such a great job of bringing

[01:17:13] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4633s
this information to the neighborhood councils too, because it's

[01:17:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4636s
presented every time, and it gives people that opportunity, so

[01:17:21] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4641s
it's just more outreach that's being done, so-

[01:17:23] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4643s
Oh, thanks, Tyler

[01:17:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4644s
... everyone doing good.

[01:17:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4644s
Yeah. I also want to mention, we did go to Lincoln Heights Neighborhood

[01:17:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4648s
Council,

[01:17:30] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4650s
I think last week. They invited me.

[01:17:32] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4652s
And then also we were at Emerson Garfield last night,

[01:17:36] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4656s
Casey and I. So we've been responding to neighborhood

[01:17:40] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4660s
councils that have particular interest, so.

[01:17:42] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4662s
And y'all made the news. I saw that.

[01:17:44] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4664s
Thank you.

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I just wanted to note that we just dropped off the stack of the postcards to

[01:17:48] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4668s
O&S, so they should be available at neighborhood council meetings as well, so you

[01:17:52] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4672s
don't have to come to the third floor City Hall to get them.

[01:17:55] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4675s
Just go to your neighborhood meeting.

[01:17:57] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4677s
And I have handout cards you can give.

[01:18:00] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4680s
So I'm just gonna run these around while we're sitting here.

[01:18:05] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4685s
In case you get asked as planning commissioners, you can also-

[01:18:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4689s
Great

[01:18:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4689s
... direct people

[01:18:11] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4691s
to the webpage, so.

[01:18:14] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4694s
Great idea.

[01:18:14] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4694s
We've actually had these around for a while-

[01:18:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4696s
Yeah

[01:18:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4696s
... but it seemed like they're more useful right now-

[01:18:19] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4699s
Yeah

[01:18:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4700s
... and people are a little more interested.

[01:18:23] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4703s
And the council members have them too, so.

[01:18:27] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4707s
Anybody want more? I have a lot more.

[01:18:31] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4711s
They're in my cabinet.

[01:18:32] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4712s
They're actually really inexpensive to print, so it's one

[01:18:36] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4716s
of our...

[01:18:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4717s
Yeah.

[01:18:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4717s
So we're very-

[01:18:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4717s
Yeah, compared to like postcards.

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We're very... Yeah.

[01:18:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4719s
Postcards.

[01:18:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4719s
It's like a great little thing, so. Okay. Thank you.

[01:18:42] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4722s
Yeah. Thank you.

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Awesome.

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Are we live?

[01:18:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4725s
Yes.

[01:18:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4725s
I might be in the way too.

[01:18:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4726s
You're good.

[01:18:48] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4728s
So this is the main page of the story map.

[01:18:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4731s
I just wanted to do a quick run through of

[01:18:54] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4734s
the different things that are on it, and then we can dive in and have a discussion

[01:18:59] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4739s
about the proposal. So the main page just gives background.

[01:19:03] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4743s
The first page as you go in-

[01:19:05] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4745s
There's just a little bit of background on what land use is, how it impacts your

[01:19:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4749s
daily life, so that people get a personal understanding of what

[01:19:13] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4753s
land use is. And then I'll just do a quick skim.

[01:19:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4756s
All the information we just talked about today is also in here,

[01:19:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4760s
as well as some information about how to use this interactive map.

[01:19:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4764s
A lot of buttons, a lot of different things.

[01:19:26] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4766s
So we're just trying to make sure people understand, as well as link to

[01:19:30] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4770s
those descriptions

[01:19:32] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4772s
in the growth strategy chapter so people can really look through and understand

[01:19:35] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4775s
what the proposal means.

[01:19:38] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4778s
So if we go to the land use map,

[01:19:40] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4780s
it'll pop up in here, but it's faster to open it in its own tab.

[01:19:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4785s
I was going to say, does that description open in a new tab and not

[01:19:48] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4788s
just redirect so that people-

[01:19:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4791s
Yes

[01:19:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4791s
... can keep it side by side?

[01:19:52] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4792s
Yes.

[01:19:53] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4793s
Okay.

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It opens as a true separate tab.

[01:19:56] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4796s
If the links within the story map are to other pages in the

[01:20:00] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4800s
story map, it jumps to those pages.

[01:20:02] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4802s
If it's to external things, it is a new tab.

[01:20:05] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4805s
Okay.

[01:20:08] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4808s
So

[01:20:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4809s
this is the interactive story map.

[01:20:12] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4812s
It starts with the city boundary, the

[01:20:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4816s
existing public comments that people have put on the map, as well as the proposed

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future land use already on the map.

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But you're able to toggle that off and turn on the previous

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land use converted to the system, so it's not two completely

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sets of land uses that you're trying to compare between.

[01:20:34] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4834s
The intention was to make the change a little bit more apparent

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by keeping the same system.

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When you say system, you mean you translated all of the old land

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use categories into the new system

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and then mapped out-

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Yeah

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... it would be currently in the new system?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So the before-

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Yeah

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... is converted from base land uses that are currently on the

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ground today to the new scheme of nine land uses

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so that it wasn't the before of 19 land uses to an

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after of nine, that people couldn't figure out what was a substantive change

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versus what was a change that just happened-

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Yep

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... to nine.

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Yep.

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So the before and afters are both in

[01:21:18] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4878s
the new land use.

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Thank you.

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And then I'll finish there. But we also have each of the

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districts. You can go neighborhood by neighborhood with a brief description

[01:21:29] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4889s
of the changes, and then a slider on the left will be before, and on the

[01:21:33] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4893s
right is after. And you can kind of see where each of those individual changes

[01:21:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4897s
are on a neighborhood by neighborhood level.

[01:21:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4899s
Oh.

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And with that,

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we are open to discussion.

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Okay.

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I'll make a very minor technical comment.

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I just noticed on the legend it says converted land uses and

[01:21:52] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4912s
then the others proposed land uses.

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That might be a little confusing for the average lay person.

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Is there any way, now that it's live, it could be converted like existing land

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uses converted with parentheses or something like that just to designate?

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The... Yes. We-

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I know it's described above, but people sometimes don't read all the...

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Yeah.

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We could still add it.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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The main thing was the reason,

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we had longer ones, and if you opened on a phone-

[01:22:21] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4941s
Yeah

[01:22:21] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4941s
... it covers the entire map if they're too long,

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which is kind of where the

[01:22:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4948s
issue we were having was. And so we were trying to still be

[01:22:31] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4951s
accurate but consolidate as much as possible.

[01:22:34] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4954s
It's a challenge.

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Another thing, just for members of the public or

[01:22:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4959s
the planning commission, if you do choose to open on your phone, on a

[01:22:43] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4963s
smaller screen, if you're able to

[01:22:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4966s
toggle the...

[01:22:49] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4969s
And the information is here on how to do it.

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But these

[01:22:54] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4974s
open automatically and are on the screen, but you can also remove

[01:22:58] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4978s
them if they're covering most of the map so that you can actually see the map.

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Again, it works better on a larger screen.

[01:23:05] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4985s
But that's what the sliders are for because that works a little bit easier on the

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non-phone.

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Yeah. I think to Kyle's point, even if it was just existing

[01:23:15] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4995s
land use and the conversion-

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Was at the end

[01:23:17] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=4997s
... is explained in text somewhere,

[01:23:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5000s
I think it would be easier for people to understand, because you're right, people

[01:23:23] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5003s
aren't probably going to read unless they're confused by something.

[01:23:29] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5009s
We can look at it.

[01:23:29] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5009s
We can discuss it. Yeah.

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We can look at it.

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Okay.

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Does anyone have anything specific they would like to talk about?

[01:23:38] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5018s
I just had a question kind of about getting a little bit getting

[01:23:42] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5022s
into the weeds of actually producing the map.

[01:23:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5025s
So

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did you use GIS? I'm kind of assuming you did.

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And my other question is, in moving from the

[01:23:53] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5033s
description of the zoning in the comp

[01:23:57] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5037s
plan draft to actually applying it to the map,

[01:24:01] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5041s
what criteria are used to choose and create the residential high zones?

[01:24:05] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5045s
One of the reasons I ask is that one of them, as my neighborhood

[01:24:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5049s
council noted yesterday evening, intrudes upon a registered historic

[01:24:13] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5053s
district. So I'm not quite sure how that happened.

[01:24:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5056s
That's sort of part of my question.

[01:24:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5060s
Two layers to that. The first and main thing,

[01:24:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5064s
again, the preferred alternative drove a lot of the location of the

[01:24:27] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5067s
changes. And then the second being planning commission

[01:24:32] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5072s
between the preferred alternative and this draft, saw a list of

[01:24:36] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5076s
criteria that was used to kind of

[01:24:40] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5080s
drive the decision-making process as we did this first draft

[01:24:44] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5084s
of where

[01:24:47] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5087s
do you apply residential high, where do you apply mixed use, what

[01:24:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5091s
are the kinds of things we want to

[01:24:53] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5093s
look at? So completing the block was one of the things so that every other

[01:24:56] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5096s
parcel wasn't something that was different.

[01:24:58] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5098s
Those kinds of things were all metrics used

[01:25:02] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5102s
within that

[01:25:05] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5105s
original set of guidelines that

[01:25:07] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5107s
led to that draft

[01:25:11] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5111s
I believe I did not complete answering the question.

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We did not exclude historic districts.

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Okay. Another smaller question that relates to my neighborhood.

[01:25:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5120s
There is a native burial ground in my neighborhood, which I did

[01:25:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5124s
not see marked. Now maybe that will show up on...

[01:25:27] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5127s
I know there's a separate map of that.

[01:25:29] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5129s
We do not map.

[01:25:29] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5129s
We do not map burial sites.

[01:25:31] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5131s
We'd love to, but we don't.

[01:25:33] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5133s
That doesn't mean we don't know about it.

[01:25:34] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5134s
It's just we don't-

[01:25:36] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5136s
It's a conscious choice.

[01:25:38] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5138s
It's the law.

[01:25:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5145s
It's the law.

[01:25:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5146s
Brandon?

[01:25:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5146s
Okay, questions at all for Brandon?

[01:25:50] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5150s
So I, for one, would just love to sit with it for a little bit.

[01:25:53] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5153s
I definitely look forward to diving into the weeds at our next touch

[01:25:57] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5157s
point on this, but I just haven't had the time to sit with it yet, but-

[01:26:00] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5160s
And thanks for the reminder, we need a bigger screen.

[01:26:02] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5162s
Yeah.

[01:26:02] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5162s
So I'd make time for that.

[01:26:04] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5164s
Yeah, I know this is really for you guys, especially.

[01:26:07] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5167s
Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You should spend time at a computer and have a look at it

[01:26:12] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5172s
and

[01:26:14] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5174s
we'll come back next meeting

[01:26:17] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5177s
if we have an idea of any areas which are of

[01:26:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5180s
interest. If you have individual questions, we can answer

[01:26:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5184s
those of course outside of the public meeting time.

[01:26:30] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5190s
And then the only other thing, uh,

[01:26:33] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5193s
okay, you're completely honest.

[01:26:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5197s
I mean, staff b**w m* out of the water with this.

[01:26:40] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5200s
This is just a totally awesome story map and by neighborhood,

[01:26:44] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5204s
it's really good.

[01:26:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5206s
Is there a way to get a summary of the comments from the

[01:26:50] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5210s
map?

[01:26:52] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5212s
You'd have to click on them right now and-

[01:26:54] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5214s
Well, I guess so that we can be most efficient with not

[01:26:58] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5218s
looking every

[01:27:00] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5220s
week if we want to.

[01:27:00] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5220s
You mean like a spreadsheet?

[01:27:02] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5222s
Or something, yeah.

[01:27:03] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5223s
A data dump from the map. I think we could have a spreadsheet.

[01:27:06] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5226s
Button that outputs a written report for you, but that doesn't mean we can't

[01:27:10] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5230s
summarize them as we get closer to the meeting.

[01:27:13] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5233s
Yeah. I was like, I know that on the back end we do have-

[01:27:17] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5237s
On the back end

[01:27:17] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5237s
... a table version of these comments-

[01:27:19] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5239s
I was thinking of a table

[01:27:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5240s
... but you lose the location specific aspect of that, and so it's hard to tie-

[01:27:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5244s
Yeah

[01:27:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5244s
... a comment to anything tangible from your

[01:27:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5248s
perspective.

[01:27:29] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5249s
That's a terrible table then.

[01:27:30] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5250s
Unless someone puts their name in as well, we do not.

[01:27:34] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5254s
We're not taking names, and that we had further

[01:27:38] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5258s
discussion about that, that we would've had to have people create an

[01:27:42] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5262s
ESRI account to sign in.

[01:27:43] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5263s
Oh, yeah. I think it's better to not force a file.

[01:27:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5266s
But just so you know as well,

[01:27:48] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5268s
um-

[01:27:49] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5269s
Yeah. That's what I was going to say.

[01:27:54] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5274s
You will likely see, moving forward, more comments on this.

[01:27:57] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5277s
We've talked at planning commission about this, and we talked a lot with the public

[01:28:00] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5280s
leading up to the release of this. But then again, the release

[01:28:04] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5284s
happened the week of the fire, so we chose not to promote,

[01:28:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5289s
so that we weren't pushing it. That was what the pause was, pausing promotion,

[01:28:12] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5292s
pausing the comment period, those kinds of things.

[01:28:14] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5294s
As we move forward, some of those things

[01:28:18] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5298s
will start occurring as we again work towards a

[01:28:22] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5302s
hearing. Because we don't want to not tell people to use.

[01:28:26] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5306s
Yeah.

[01:28:26] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5306s
That's not what's your intention of this.

[01:28:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5308s
It's a sticky line.

[01:28:29] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5309s
Yeah.

[01:28:30] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5310s
For sure.

[01:28:30] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5310s
So for reviewing public comment too, maybe the best thing is just to use the map,

[01:28:34] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5314s
but just the week before the hearing or something like that, or

[01:28:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5317s
whenever it's locked-

[01:28:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5319s
Yeah

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... for new comments.

[01:28:40] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5320s
That's a good reminder, thanks.

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Yeah.

[01:28:41] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5321s
Now that we're

[01:28:43] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5323s
getting closer to, or if we can actually establish a comment period, we can add

[01:28:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5326s
that information as well.

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Okay. Well, thank you for all of your work on this. This is an incredible tool.

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I definitely played with it momentarily, but I look forward to actually

[01:28:56] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5336s
sitting down and really playing with it. So thank you for all your work on this.

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Really, really appreciate it. Any other comments for Brandon in closing?

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For Tyrrell?

[01:29:05] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5345s
Just great job. It is a job well done. It's good.

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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Great. Well, thank you. All right,

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we're going to move on. Finally,

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Comprehensive Plan Policy Explorer Interactive Dashboard with

[01:29:18] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5358s
Casey, and is Logan with you, or are you-

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Log is not here.

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Just Casey.

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But big shout out to Logan. This tool would not exist without his knowhow of how to

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create it, so

[01:29:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5368s
thank you to him. We have this great tool.

[01:29:31] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5371s
And I do have a presentation plan here is to just go

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over this tool,

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talk about some decisions in it, and then see if there's any questions for me.

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So the Comprehensive Plan Policy Explorer

[01:29:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5386s
is a dashboard that has all of the goals and

[01:29:49] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5389s
policies of the draft comprehensive plan.

[01:29:52] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5392s
This does not replace the full comprehensive plan

[01:29:55] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5395s
draft. It does not have the maps, the graphics, the

[01:29:59] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5399s
narratives, the growth strategy, the transportation themes.

[01:30:03] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5403s
It is just the goals and policies. The intent, though, is to allow folks to be

[01:30:07] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5407s
able to see holistic view of all those goals and policies, rather than having

[01:30:11] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5411s
to look at one chapter at a time. You can see themes

[01:30:15] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5415s
that are across all of the chapters and really explore to see how the chapters work

[01:30:19] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5419s
together. Because a big part of this update is to really show that the

[01:30:22] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5422s
comprehensive plan does work together, all the chapters work together as one.

[01:30:26] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5426s
That's why we were able to reduce some of the policies.

[01:30:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5428s
We didn't need repetitive policies, because it all works together.

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It's all married together.

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And so this is the main screen that you get to.

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The link to this can be found at plan.spokane.gov on the chapter

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review page. We're also sharing it a lot in our

[01:30:44] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5444s
newsletter.

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That's where you can find the link, and it takes you here.

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You will know, as we've been trying to reduce the policy counts of the

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comprehensive plan, we must acknowledge it's still a lot of policies.

[01:30:56] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5456s
We've also added a lot of policies for climate, housing,

[01:31:00] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5460s
anti-displacement policies that were not part of the comprehensive plan,

[01:31:04] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5464s
as well as policies that were added due to gaps identified through

[01:31:08] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5468s
community engagement. So we have added policies, so it's a little bit of a balance.

[01:31:12] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5472s
We do have- It's still a lot, which is why we're hoping to have this tool

[01:31:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5476s
also post-adoption to still provide that ease of navigating

[01:31:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5480s
the goals and policies. So here you see the number of

[01:31:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5484s
goals, that's the dark blue, as well as the number of policies in

[01:31:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5488s
each chapter. This does not mean that they're not themes related

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from one chapter to another chapter.

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This is just purely in that chapter document, those are the numbers

[01:31:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5497s
of goals and policies.

[01:31:39] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5499s
Over here, we have themes of the comprehensive plan.

[01:31:42] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5502s
So in the introduction of the comprehensive plan, we identified themes that we

[01:31:46] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5506s
heard through community engagement, the values that are supporting the community

[01:31:50] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5510s
vision. And those were identified as plan for housing, plan for

[01:31:54] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5514s
equity, plan for climate resiliency, plan for community wellbeing,

[01:31:58] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5518s
and plan for economic prosperity.

[01:32:00] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5520s
So our goal here is to not just hear those themes and have those themes influence

[01:32:04] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5524s
the goals and policy edits, but also to continue those themes we heard from the

[01:32:07] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5527s
community throughout the comprehensive plan.

[01:32:10] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5530s
So we have tagged

[01:32:12] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5532s
certain goals and policies with these themes.

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In the final pretty designed version of the comprehensive plan, we will

[01:32:19] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5539s
also have those tags. And then

[01:32:22] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5542s
the tracking of implementation of a lot of that framing

[01:32:26] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5546s
in the community indicators chapter that is now available has those themes as

[01:32:30] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5550s
well. So trying to really bring what we heard from the community through the

[01:32:34] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5554s
plan, the final plan, and the implementation of the plan.

[01:32:38] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5558s
So this just has an overview of what those

[01:32:42] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5562s
themes are, the count of themes. We then have

[01:32:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5565s
instructions of how to navigate and filter,

[01:32:49] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5569s
and then of course how to view the full comprehensive plan.

[01:32:52] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5572s
I know I said it, but I really want to repeat it.

[01:32:53] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5573s
This does not replace the full document. Please read the full document as well.

[01:32:59] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5579s
Then we have this tab of what is a comprehensive plan, just trying to provide a

[01:33:02] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5582s
little bit of background for folks. This will be updated post-adoption.

[01:33:06] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5586s
We're still emphasizing this is a draft, and how to provide comments.

[01:33:11] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5591s
Before I get to the Explorer tab, I'll jump to the glossary.

[01:33:14] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5594s
So this is

[01:33:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5596s
same glossary that we have in PDF version.

[01:33:19] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5599s
It has terms, acronyms that are in the comprehensive plan,

[01:33:23] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5603s
so folks have a shared understanding of what's being discussed.

[01:33:26] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5606s
So you can search by keyword. So,

[01:33:30] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5610s
if you ran into a term and you want to look it up,

[01:33:34] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5614s
it jumps you to, I don't know why I'm pointing at my screen.

[01:33:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5617s
It jumps you to the land use here or any other term that you put

[01:33:41] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5621s
in. You can also search by letter. If a word is

[01:33:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5625s
not found in here, it is just the common dictionary definition, but

[01:33:49] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5629s
these are the more unique terms.

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And so the main points or aspect of this is the Plan

[01:33:56] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5636s
Spokane 2046 Explorer tab. This is all the goals and

[01:34:00] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5640s
policies. So it starts out with just showing all of

[01:34:04] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5644s
them. You see the goal and policy count of 615.

[01:34:07] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5647s
That's goals and policies. And we have the chapter name,

[01:34:11] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5651s
goal and policy number, policy or goal name, the actual

[01:34:15] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5655s
text of the goal or policy. Then you have to scroll, but it shows some of the

[01:34:18] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5658s
general themes.

[01:34:22] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5662s
Then we have the keyword search here.

[01:34:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5664s
I'll just put a topic

[01:34:27] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5667s
of

[01:34:29] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5669s
top of mind right now, emergency management.

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You put in that topic, it pulls up, okay, goal

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10 of community health, emergency management.

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This just pulls up if the term is in the language.

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So you can see that the goal emergency management is here, but it just

[01:34:45] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5685s
shows one of the policies. It's because the other policies don't have that

[01:34:49] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5689s
term. But it does show there is an entire goal.

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Maybe let's go and see what the entirety of that goal looks like.

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You can do this with trees, open space, housing,

[01:35:00] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5700s
any terms that you want to search for.

[01:35:03] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5703s
You can also then navigate by chapter.

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It starts out all of them selected.

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You just need to unclick and choose which chapter

[01:35:12] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5712s
you want to navigate.

[01:35:16] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5716s
Then we have the themes. Again, these are the key themes that we heard from the

[01:35:19] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5719s
community. We've also added greenhouse gas emissions,

[01:35:23] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5723s
that's the GHG, and vehicle miles traveled, VMT.

[01:35:27] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5727s
This is

[01:35:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5728s
really for staff use, predominantly post-adoption the comprehensive

[01:35:32] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5732s
plan.

[01:35:34] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5734s
A use of this dashboard is, yes, for community

[01:35:37] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5737s
plan commission to be able to see goals and policies.

[01:35:40] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5740s
It's also for staff to be able to navigate the comprehensive plan easier, make it

[01:35:43] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5743s
easier to implement. Also supports writing of reports and grants

[01:35:47] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5747s
applications. So that is why GHG and VMT are added in particular.

[01:35:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5751s
Those are big topics for a lot of grant applications that we submit.

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So again, all of them are selected. You unselect.

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Let's do climate element. These are all the policies that are part of the climate

[01:36:02] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5762s
element.

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These tags are staff looking through,

[01:36:07] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5767s
identifying these really hit this theme.

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There may be other goals or policies that are related that

[01:36:14] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5774s
weren't flagged. That is open for feedback if these tags should be added

[01:36:18] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5778s
to additional goals or policies. We are trying to

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not

[01:36:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5784s
use the tag so much that it dilutes the

[01:36:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5788s
filtering. Like, oh, you

[01:36:29] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5789s
click,

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let's see.

[01:36:34] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5794s
You click economic prosperity and literally anything that

[01:36:38] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5798s
could impact

[01:36:40] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5800s
finances shows up. It's not as useful as a tool.

[01:36:43] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5803s
But we are open to adjust the tags of goals and policies.

[01:36:47] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5807s
For the draft version of this, as we're going through the comprehensive plan

[01:36:51] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5811s
pre-adoption, we also have new or existing.

[01:36:55] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5815s
Existing can still be updated, it's just that the policy existed in the current

[01:36:59] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5819s
shaping Spokane Comprehensive Plan. New is completely new.

[01:37:03] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5823s
So again, we tried to reduce lots of new legislative

[01:37:07] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5827s
requirements, lots of

[01:37:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5829s
gaps identified by the community.

[01:37:10] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5830s
So we do have 203 new goals and policies.

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But again, a lot were removed,

[01:37:17] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5837s
and we've moved stuff around, but making room for those new

[01:37:20] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5840s
ones. That is the tool. We hope it is useful for folks

[01:37:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5844s
to, again, have that holistic view of the comprehensive plan and actually

[01:37:28] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5848s
improve the implementation of the plan post-adoption.

[01:37:32] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5852s
But yeah, just wanted to show it and then open it up for questions or feedback.

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Again, we're still open for feedback on those tags as well.

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Thoughts, questions,

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comments, concerns?

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Yeah, I definitely look forward to using this heavily in the run-up to the hearing

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on this.

[01:37:55] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5875s
Cut all the fluff out and let's just get to the meat of it.

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Not to say that all the other stuff is the fluff.

[01:38:01] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5881s
It's important-

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... context setting, but this is really the meat.

[01:38:06] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5886s
So yeah, thank you and Logan for putting this together.

[01:38:09] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5889s
I can see this being extremely useful and like the land use map, I look forward

[01:38:13] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5893s
to playing with it more.

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Maybe you showed this, and I missed it, but maybe you could show everybody

[01:38:21] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5901s
how to get to the explorer.

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That was going to be my next question.

[01:38:24] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5904s
Just especially for the public that might be watching.

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Yes. So planSpokane.org takes you to our homepage.

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Definitely encourage anyone who is looking to dive in here.

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This is our About page, Climate Planning,

[01:38:38] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5918s
Future Land Use Map, goes straight to the story map that Brandon was just showing.

[01:38:41] https://player.vimeo.com/video/1221922252#t=5921s
Chapter Review is everything comprehensive land document.

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Those are the chapters, so Goals and Policies.

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Got a big button here, Comprehensive Plan Explorer.

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This takes you directly to that dashboard.

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So it's buried in the sense that it's not on the main homepage, but we're hoping

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if you're diving into the chapters, it's right there, and we are promoting

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it separately in our newsletter. And, I plan on pulling together

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some social media footage as well. So hoping to get that out there.

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Big buttons are good.

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Thank you.

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Within the limitations of that website builder.

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There isn't a link on each chapter to the plan itself,

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is there?

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There is not.

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The PDFs do not have links.

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Right now, they're pretty standalone with icon versions.

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But the new ones will have cross links.

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We are still working on what that ultimately will look like.

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So currently, we have individual chapters.

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Individual chapters are difficult for cross links, when we have

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those as separate PDFs.

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Yes. For sure.

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We'll be able to do them when it's one document.

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Yes.

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We're hoping this interactive tool

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also serves as that interactive cross reference

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aspect in lieu of being able to figure out how to do the cross references in

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between the individual PDFs. So trying to provide those options

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with the limitations of the programs that we

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have.

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But yeah, so the full document we're still looking for bookmarks still.

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Do you think there's going to be an opportunity to have a

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non-PDF full version that is

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just a browser-based-

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With-

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... document?

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... our current programs that are available,

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no.

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Okay.

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This dashboard is intended to serve as that in

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lieu of

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an interactive page.

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In the future, we'd love to look into opportunities.

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We just don't have those bookmarks right now.

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Right. Yeah. It would have to be on a third-party site, and

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yeah.

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Contracting and all of that and figure out logistics.

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So this is our

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solution for now to still allow-

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Yeah.

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... you searching.

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Yeah.

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And this doesn't include the maps, like all the transportation-

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Right

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... maps that are in the

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PDF.

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And since I'm here, we haven't really talked

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about it. Since we've had the new update that Brandon was

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talking about, just a reminder, we have all the chapters.

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We also have all the appendices, including some that have been

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posted before. A lot of housing reports are available.

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We've collected them into one place for folks to see.

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And then we also have, again, all the maps.

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All the maps are at the end of the chapters

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we're navigating. Those are all available.

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Okay. Anything further for Casey?

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Okay, well, thank you again for all your work on this

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massive lift. Massive lift, all of this.

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So yeah, really, really props to all the staff for everything

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they've done.

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And again, big shout-out to Logan Spork.

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Big shout-out.

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Would not exist without him. His idea.

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Look at that. We caught up our time. Beautiful.

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Okay.

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Before we adjourn temporarily, before our hearing, do we have

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anything else for the good of the order?

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Okay. Hearing none, we are adjourned, 4:00,

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in this room.

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Oh, yeah. Thank you.

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Don't forget.

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I already forgot.

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Yeah.

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I'm surprised that nothing popped up there.

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Well, that did give me very good information.

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I would love to text you.

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Yeah, I kept looking up at that, and then I was like-

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Yeah

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... "What's the time?"

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I know. You so broke it.

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It's 11:47.

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Time.

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It's not...